Thread: Blood Results

Hey all, got my blood test results today, about to start my long awaited first cycle. Do you guys know how these levels are, i am about to turn 21;

Testosterone=17 nmol/L
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin=34 nmol/L
Free Testosterone=63.1 pmol/L

LH 6.1 IU/L
Albumin 42 g/L
TSH 1.1 mIU/L

Those are the relevant levels i could see. She said they are around average for my age, do you educated guys reckon they are a strong enough baseline to start on? I understand im on the young side so trying to be as safe as possible.

Thanks in advance.

all pretty normal looking to me mate.

I'd love those levels!

Originally Posted by plexus

I'd love those levels!

you just scored better than this with resveratrol...lol

Levels look fine and are well within normal range.

Originally Posted by O.N.

you just scored better than this with resveratrol...lol

fuck yeh. i just wish those levels were normal. cant wait to get on again

Sweet as, so im good to go. Gonna take measurements n bodyfat levels beforehand. Will report back with progress. Cheers

excellent blood work, few people these days have them done. good base to start with. make sure to have it printed and in a folder before and after cycles to see if full recovery is made.

what are you planning on running?

have you thought about a members progress journal?

Originally Posted by zayd687

excellent blood work, few people these days have them done. good base to start with. make sure to have it printed and in a folder before and after cycles to see if full recovery is made.

what are you planning on running?

have you thought about a members progress journal?

Thanks mate. Yeah, gonna keep them together definitely. At the moment im starting with my old plan; mild dose of 250 mg test e split into 2 shots ew, 250 hcg ew(2 shots) and .25 adex ed. I think with my goals of an absolute maximum 5 kgs of lean gains and some fat loss, that should be enough.

However should i be disapointed with results i will add something mild for hardening in the last 5 weeks, i was thinking 30 mgs Anavar, as money is not a problem at the moment and androgenic side effects, especially acne, have got to be avoided. Im pretty happy with that plan and have been researching for quite a while, it definitely a mild cycle but for my goals it should work well...
And i have thought about a progress journal, but i think my current size and goal will lead to disagreements like in my old thread. I'll just take some before and after pics plus bodyfat and girth measurements to show progress then post em up when im done.
Cheers

Good luck mate. Your cycle is conservative but given it's your first that's a good idea.

keep a journal mate the mod team will keep it on track.

edit

good going mate your on the right track, id definately run more but thats just me.. OR HOW ABOUT PROP ? i heard there really really good at this time of year
kidden

goodluck mate post pictures and have a journal , be quite interested in ur upcoming transformation

Originally Posted by dumbellpress

Hey all, got my blood test results today, about to start my long awaited first cycle. Do you guys know how these levels are, i am about to turn 21;

Testosterone=17 nmol/L
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin=34 nmol/L
Free Testosterone=63.1 pmol/L

LH 6.1 IU/L
Albumin 42 g/L
TSH 1.1 mIU/L

Those are the relevant levels i could see. She said they are around average for my age, do you educated guys reckon they are a strong enough baseline to start on? I understand im on the young side so trying to be as safe as possible.

Thanks in advance.

Well, to swim against the tide a little..... assuming an upper test range of 34, then 17 for a 21 year old is not that flash. I can get to 17 without HRT, and I'm considerably older.

SHBG is good, but again, assuming a range of 6-50 or so, then 34 would be high-ish.

Now, as for doing a cycle? WHY? You are 21 years old and you want to smack your endocrine system? Madness, fwiw.

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Well, to swim against the tide a little..... assuming an upper test range of 34, then 17 for a 21 year old is not that flash. I can get to 17 without HRT, and I'm considerably older.

SHBG is good, but again, assuming a range of 6-50 or so, then 34 would be high-ish.

Now, as for doing a cycle? WHY? You are 21 years old and you want to smack your endocrine system? Madness, fwiw.

I was going to say it is low for 21 but really these days it is normal it should be between 20 - 30 but more and more young males come back with < 20 something in our moden day enviroment causing this i reckon.

I read that men 50 or 100 years ago had test levels twice as high on average as today.

His 21 supposely in his peak already lowish test why not cycle? from my understanding it's a no no to cycle at 21 cause your natty test is supposed to already be high peaking in fact his is clearly not. Provided he ran HGC and all that there shouldn't ben an issue about recovering.

Not trying to question your judgment laz just trying to get a better awareness and understanding on my part of what your advsing as i'm probably overlooking something or there is something i don't know.

If I can put on 20kg natural in 2.5yrs with 9nmol/l.... anyone can fucken gain on 17nmols/l. Lol.

Originally Posted by M1CH43L

I was going to say it is low for 21 but really these days it is normal it should be between 20 - 30 but more and more young males come back with < 20 something in our moden day enviroment causing this i reckon.

I read that men 50 or 100 years ago had test levels twice as high on average as today.

His 21 supposely in his peak already lowish test why not cycle? from my understanding it's a no no to cycle at 21 cause your natty test is supposed to already be high peaking in fact his is clearly not. Provided he ran HGC and all that there shouldn't ben an issue about recovering.

Not trying to question your judgment laz just trying to get a better awareness and understanding on my part of what your advsing as i'm probably overlooking something or there is something i don't know.

In short: we've seen a big change in environmental hormones. There are many more estrogens in the environment which, apart from seeing women's breasts increase in average size, it also has an impact on male hormones.

My problem with 20 somethings and cycles is simple: ok, your natural hormones may be "low" but surely it's preferable to exhaust all natural avenues of improvement before bashing your endocrine system?

If they are 17 now, imagine how low they could get after taking your endocrine system for a ride lol.

Originally Posted by adz82

If they are 17 now, imagine how low they could get after taking your endocrine system for a ride lol.

23rd April 2010 03:37 PM
M1CH43L
I was going to say it is low for 21 but really these days it is normal it should be between 20 - 30 but more and more young males come back with < 20 something in our moden day enviroment causing this i reckon.

I read that men 50 or 100 years ago had test levels twice as high on average as today.

His 21 supposely in his peak already lowish test why not cycle? from my understanding it's a no no to cycle at 21 cause your natty test is supposed to already be high peaking in fact his is clearly not. Provided he ran HGC and all that there shouldn't ben an issue about recovering.

Not trying to question your judgment laz just trying to get a better awareness and understanding on my part of what your advsing as i'm probably overlooking something or there is something i don't know.

hmm. I was under the impression that with hcg throughout, and a precise pct, my levels are not going to end up all very different to how they started 6 weeks after the cycle?
Granted they were not extremely high, but by 21 they wouldnt have risen much more anyway? i'll add that this will be my only cycle for at least 2 years. I understand im taking a risk, but i will be getting post cycle bloods and responding accordingly. Yes i could have gained more naturaly, i gant deny that, but i have taken the quicker route for a valid reason (an upcoming career oppurtunity), is this 8 week conservative cycle really going to be that detrimental to my test levels?

Recovery will be fine if your using HCG.
Add to that if you make use of resveratrol post cycle this level of 17 will probably be even higher taking a natural supplement.

Originally Posted by dumbellpress

hmm. I was under the impression that with hcg throughout, and a precise pct, my levels are not going to end up all very different to how they started 6 weeks after the cycle?
Granted they were not extremely high, but by 21 they wouldnt have risen much more anyway? i'll add that this will be my only cycle for at least 2 years. I understand im taking a risk, but i will be getting post cycle bloods and responding accordingly. Yes i could have gained more naturaly, i gant deny that, but i have taken the quicker route for a valid reason (an upcoming career oppurtunity), is this 8 week conservative cycle really going to be that detrimental to my test levels?

no.... i've run two cycles and my last bloods confirmed my test and free test higher then my bloods before i started my first cycle... ( i started my first one at 21/22 )
as stated, bloods, cycle, hcg and nolva. run it properly.

if you were 17 then id be pushing you to become the next UN SOLDIER.

u'll be fine mate.