Maybe my goals are different to yours. I have no desire to be 115kg. I'd much prefer 85 or 90 with minimal bodyfat.
Each to their own.

Originally Posted by Shrek

Further more I am on calorie restrictions right now trying to lean up

Originally Posted by Shrek

I am a beginner too, that's why I ditched split routines, I am not advanced enough and I can admit that.

Originally Posted by adz82

For someone who is such a guru on all things bodybuilding it's now apparent that you are not. During your illness you learnt about the body and nutrition, training etc so you 'bulked up' but you wont be doing that again?

WTF if you were so knowledgeble about all this why would you ever BULK?

Surely a Zen master of bodybuilding such as yourself could have dropped body fat whilst gaining a heap of muscle?

It is now VERY evident that you are yet to walk the walk with anything you write but my assumption that you are just regurgitating with your posts was correct. Comment and offer opinions but don't just flat out say people are wrong without considering what others who have been there and done it have to add.

thats why i dint bother replying to what he said to me. its obvious to me that his way is right and we are all idiots that think we are pro's. lol

Originally Posted by Shrek

Maybe my goals are different to yours. I have no desire to be 115kg. I'd much prefer 85 or 90 with minimal bodyfat.
Each to their own.

Been there, done that check my pics. I have been 92kg with clear visable abs

http://www.bodybuildingforums.com.au...k-feb-2010.jpg

Not bad for someone who was once fat 135kg (my surgical scars prove it). I managed to finish a bulk fairly lean whilst eating bread, sauces, going out to dinners etc, ice cream too. BTW I have no desire to be 115kg either. I quite prefer the physique above.

Anyway this isn't about us so back on topic.

You have done very well. Losing that much weight is not easy.

Originally Posted by Shrek

You have done very well. Losing that much weight is not easy.

And thankyou, appreciate it.

Look you got to lighten up. Why I am being such a **** is because I have been where you are now and I can see it happening all over again, read too many articles and books and was too worried about minute details that made no difference. An information overload from people selling shit that keeps you spinning wheels.

It wasn't until I started listening to the advice of guys who are bigger and more seasoned than I am that I started going places. It don't matter who you are I can't stand to see the same shit happen to other people and see them waste countless years yo-yoing like I did. It's funny because I lost the majority of my body fat with pure common sense, eating properly and hard work in the gym. It was only when I decided to start reading and getting more specific about things my progress just became stagnant.

Anyway my apologies go out to bingoarms I have not meant to drag your thread so far off topic.

Originally Posted by adz82

Anyway my apologies go out to bingoarms I have not meant to drag your thread so far off topic.

Don't apoligise mate, i think all of this needed to be brought out into the open.

Hi bingoarms, i am also new to forum and hope to start posting soon..
Let me say, your Tris look awesome in that pic mate.

Originally Posted by Rush

Hi bingoarms, i am also new to forum and hope to start posting soon..
Let me say, your Tris look awesome in that pic mate.

Cheers mate and welcome to the forum.

hows your wheels bingoarms?

I have cleaned up this topic and moved the OT posts to their own dedicated section.

http://www.bodybuildingforums.com.au...solations.html

Originally Posted by C_T

hows your wheels bingoarms?

Upper legs are good and in proportion with my upper body, dam calves though i've really struggled to get em to grow. Give me a few days i'll post up a pic.