Hi! I am 43, weightlifter for 25+ years. I am 6'7" and 300#. I found your site doing a search on fenugreek and DHEA. I was shocked to hear that DHEA is only available with prescription in Australia. I thought only the USA's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) kept good products off the market. I look forward to reading some good posts.

What is your opinions on adding 5-10g of leucine powder to post-workout drinks? No stores in USA sell leucine powder--because it tastes like crap and does not mix well. I only get it online through bodybuilding.com. It is an awesome site with tons of workout plans, etc.

I searched for BREWERS YEAST and got no hits. In the states you can get a 16oz container of Brewers Yeast for about $10 USD. A serving size of 2 tablespoons yields the equivalent of any major brand whey isolate protein of 17 grams of protein. I matched up the amino acid profile and it is equal to or greater on almost all the important amino acid profiles for bodybuilding. Our nutrition stores don't advertise this FACT because brewers yeast (when added to water) tastes TERRIBLE. But, in the words of Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler "I don't eat for taste!" For me, the brewers yeast has a slightly nutty tasty and it helps offset the even worse taste of leucine powder. Any of you guys in Australia ever use BREWERS YEAST OR LEUCINE POWDER. In the states, LEUCINE is only marketed by Muscletech as LEUKIC in pill form. I prefer mixing up my own powder combinations because then I know EXACTLY what is in my drink.

Welcome to the forum

Yeast will wreck havok on your digestive system and you will likey end up with a disese called candidia.

You should be able to buy plain lucine powder in bulk in the US off a few websites..

Welcome aboard mate.

Welcome Hulk.

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This guy is on here to spam lol.... get some hits in google.

Originally Posted by plexus

This guy is on here to spam lol.... get some hits in google.

Good point. Plenty of other sup companies sell leucine. Though none other alter your DNA.

Originally Posted by adz82

Good point. Plenty of other sup companies sell leucine. Though none other alter your DNA.

Is Leucine really that beneficial to bodybuilding?

Leucine aids protein synthesis I believe. So its a real powerhouse.

Originally Posted by determined

Leucine aids protein synthesis I believe. So its a real powerhouse.

Just sounds like another Supplement to me lol!

If its OTC I won't use it buddy!!

Originally Posted by UN Soldier

Just sounds like another Supplement to me lol!

If its OTC I won't use it buddy!!

That's a terrible attitude and a misguided conception. While I would agree most OT supps are useless Leucine is an amino acid and is a building block of protein, how can it not work?

Originally Posted by Shrek

That's a terrible attitude and a misguided conception. While I would agree most OT supps are useless Leucine is an amino acid and is a building block of protein, how can it not work?

Still need to asses the bang for buck factor. Is it's expense worth the gains you get from it?

It's cheap. You only need 5-10gms per day, you can get it for $60/kg

Originally Posted by Shrek

It's cheap. You only need 5-10gms per day, you can get it for $60/kg

Are there any studies with a control group used that illustrates the percentage extra you can gain whilst using it? Apart from the 60000% percent more mass Muscletech university claim you gain.

Ie. Is it as well documented as creatine.

Muscletech..LOL.

Yes there is studies. I have read them

Basically Leucine is what triggers anabolism (protein synthesis).Taken throughout the day it can keep your body in positive nitrogen balance. This can be good esp when dieting down.
I only take it before and during workout.

Anyhow I'm not here to convince you to take Leucine, I merely explained that it is cheap and is an Amino Acid.
I use it, I like it.

Originally Posted by Shrek

Muscletech..LOL.

Yes there is studies. I have read them

Basically Leucine is what triggers anabolism (protein synthesis).Taken throughout the day it can keep your body in positive nitrogen balance. This can be good esp when dieting down.
I only take it before and during workout.

Anyhow I'm not here to convince you to take Leucine, I merely explained that it is cheap and is an Amino Acid.
I use it, I like it.

Fair enough. I'd just be curious to know how much of a benefit it could be on an already protein rich diet which you get ample amounts of Leucine.

Perhaps I should do some reading on pubmed.

Yeh I'm with Shrek on this one. Plenty of studies on the benefits of Luecine - http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/co...ull/288/4/E645

I'd hope everyone would be as interested in improving their knowledge in all areas of diet and supplementation and not just on dosages and injection sites....

I agree, I drink Xtend during my workout and during the day. I certainly think it's been helpful.