My first cycle

[h4rderbetter]

heres the sitch, i need help, i am knowledgable on the topic of these substances after vigorous research and referrels.
here is my planned 8 week cycle.

1 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
2 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
3 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
4 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
5 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
6 200 deca, 500 sust,
7 200 deca, 250 sust,
8 200 deca, 250 sust,
10 Clomid 100mg per day
11 Clomid 50mg per day

please, someone with experience, can you let me know,
-is this a good first cycle
-when should the weekly dose be administered and in what volumes

thanks.

[M1CH43L]

heres the sitch, i need help, i am knowledgable on the topic of these substances after vigorous research and referrels.
here is my planned 8 week cycle.

1 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
2 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
3 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
4 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
5 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
6 200 deca, 500 sust,
7 200 deca, 250 sust,
8 200 deca, 250 sust,
10 Clomid 100mg per day
11 Clomid 50mg per day

please, someone with experience, can you let me know,
-is this a good first cycle
-when should the weekly dose be administered and in what volumes

thanks.

Judging by your currant stats and goals i think a cycle like this would be better suited for your you.

Week | Testosterone | Equipoise |Anadrol |Growth Hormone| Insulin| Tren Ace
1 2,400mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
2 2,400mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
3 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
4 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
5 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
6 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
7 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
8 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
9 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
10 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
11 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg


-As for weekly doses Tren would be best @ 85mg EOD, GH and Slin ED, the test you can spit up into to 2 doses say monday thursday and no need for any PCT or anything like that being a fairly mild cycle this shouldn't fully shut you down.

[Scottie85]

heres the sitch, i need help, i am knowledgable on the topic of these substances after vigorous research and referrels.
here is my planned 8 week cycle.

1 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
2 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
3 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
4 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
5 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
6 200 deca, 500 sust,
7 200 deca, 250 sust,
8 200 deca, 250 sust,
10 Clomid 100mg per day
11 Clomid 50mg per day

please, someone with experience, can you let me know,
-is this a good first cycle
-when should the weekly dose be administered and in what volumes

thanks.

Am I having deja vu or what...
Seriously, no... Thats not a good 1st cycle!
Do some better research and stop reading up on American boards for "standard 1st cycles"...

300mg test e weekly split into 2 injections per week is more than enough for cycle 1-5 for ANYBODY! Use HCG at 250IU twice a week along side it with a 20mg daily dose of nolva for 2 weeks after the cycle for PCT... Thats it, nuff said...

[Thrasha]

heres the sitch, i need help, i am knowledgable on the topic of these substances after vigorous research and referrels.
here is my planned 8 week cycle.

1 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
2 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
3 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
4 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
5 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
6 200 deca, 500 sust,
7 200 deca, 250 sust,
8 200 deca, 250 sust,
10 Clomid 100mg per day
11 Clomid 50mg per day

please, someone with experience, can you let me know,
-is this a good first cycle
-when should the weekly dose be administered and in what volumes

thanks.

do what you want. you going to anyways. did you not read my reply to your post? seriously you are wasting our time, we are here to help but if your just going to be a dk and do what you want anyways then fk off and waste some1 elses time.
GIVE US STATS! how do we know if we arent telling a 17yr old with 1 week gym experience to cycle?

[M1CH43L]

how do we know if we arent telling a 17yr old with 1 week gym experience to cycle?

It's probably the reason why he ignored your post, just started goin to gym this week got year 10 formal in 2 weeks and hafta get huuge

[Nath]

Ok so after a few issues with "the guy" my cycle will now consist of the following -

Week 1-6: Test-E 500mg/W split into 2x 250mg shots
week 7-10: Stana 40mg ED
Week 1-10: Pregnyl 250iu twice week

My question now is, i was thinking of dbol 20mg ED for weeks 1-2 so I was going to get some Arimidex to run with it. Should I run Arimidex throughout the whole cycle or just the 2 weeks on dbol?

[zayd687]

far eager beavers eh

adex all the way thru... the day u inject u pop .25-.5 whatever tickles u

add dbol if u wan, i dont get it why do u not run it 4 weeks?
u'll gain regardless of the dbol but still


to the OTHER guy with the cycle...

1 long ester compound 400-500mg ( incase its underdosed ) 10 weeker.. thats it
research pct threads to what to use on cycle

[Nath]

add dbol if u wan, i dont get it why do u not run it 4 weeks?
u'll gain regardless of the dbol but still

You mean run dbol for 4 weeks instead of 2?

[Thrasha]

Ok so after a few issues with "the guy" my cycle will now consist of the following -

Week 1-6: Test-E 500mg/W split into 2x 250mg shots
week 7-10: Stana 40mg ED
Week 1-10: Pregnyl 250iu twice week

My question now is, i was thinking of dbol 20mg ED for weeks 1-2 so I was going to get some Arimidex to run with it. Should I run Arimidex throughout the whole cycle or just the 2 weeks on dbol?

you might as well run your test e for another 2 weeks...

[Nath]

you might as well run your test e for another 2 weeks...

So run the test for weeks 1-8 and overlap it with the stana weeks 7-10?

Just to be clear, I wouldn't be substituting the first 2 weeks of the test with 2 weeks of dbol if that's what you thought I meant? The dbol would be an addition in weeks 1-2 or 1-4 as has been suggested.

[Thrasha]

So run the test for weeks 1-8 and overlap it with the stana weeks 7-10?

Just to be clear, I wouldn't be substituting the first 2 weeks of the test with 2 weeks of dbol if that's what you thought I meant? The dbol would be an addition in weeks 1-2 or 1-4 as has been suggested.

no. wk 1-8 test e
wk 7-10 stana

i just noticed that your hcg is ending at week 10 too. you might want to do this then, wk 1-8 test e, wk 6-10 stan, hcg the whole time. what stan are you using? oral? if so then id run the way i said.
dbol isnt a must. this is your first cycle. keep it simple

[Nath]

no. wk 1-8 test e
wk 7-10 stana

i just noticed that your hcg is ending at week 10 too. you might want to do this then, wk 1-8 test e, wk 6-10 stan, hcg the whole time. what stan are you using? oral? if so then id run the way i said.
dbol isnt a must. this is your first cycle. keep it simple

I could get more pregnyl if needed?

So you suggest running stana for 5 weeks then?

[Thrasha]

I could get more pregnyl if needed?

So you suggest running stana for 5 weeks then?

4 weeks.
Get more pregnyl if you want but its really a waste. what size amp are you getting? 5000iu? i think by the time you want to cycle again the hcg would have degraded. its your first cycle no? keep it simple.

[Nath]

4 weeks.
Get more pregnyl if you want but its really a waste. what size amp are you getting? 5000iu? i think by the time you want to cycle again the hcg would have degraded. its your first cycle no? keep it simple.

Sorry man, week 6-10 is 5 weeks to me because if you're running it on the 6th & 10th week that's 5 weeks.

Ok so run the test 1-8 & stana 7-10, cut out the dbol. Might just hold onto the dbol for a second cycle down the track then.

If I'm not running dbol do you still think adex is a good idea to run alongside the HCG as my OCT?

What are your thoughts on PCT if I'm running both HCG & adex on cycle?

[Thrasha]

Sorry man, week 6-10 is 5 weeks to me because if you're running it on the 6th & 10th week that's 5 weeks.

Ok so run the test 1-8 & stana 7-10, cut out the dbol. Might just hold onto the dbol for a second cycle down the track then.

If I'm not running dbol do you still think adex is a good idea to run alongside the HCG as my OCT?

What are your thoughts on PCT if I'm running both HCG & adex on cycle?

Look there is no need for the dbol, but if you want it wouldnt hurt to take 20-30mg. Being your first cycle you could grow on 20-30mg of dbol alone.

Its hard to tell if you'l need adex. Im very gyno sensitive so even on 500mg i use .5mg EOD. If you want run the adex at .5mg EOD during the cycle. and for the 2 weeks after. no for adex in PCT. if you want to run a pct just do a nolva and resvertrol pct.

[Nath]

Should the test e be split into 2x 250mg shots as mentioned above or is it ok with the life of e to just be pinning 1x 500mg shot a week?

[Thrasha]

Should the test e be split into 2x 250mg shots as mentioned above or is it ok with the life of e to just be pinning 1x 500mg shot a week?

best splitting it. keeps levels bit more even for the end of the week.

[Scottie85]

Should the test e be split into 2x 250mg shots as mentioned above or is it ok with the life of e to just be pinning 1x 500mg shot a week?

I'd keep splitting it...
But it won't make a huge difference to your cycle gains, if any, by not splitting...
It's more likely to effect your mood and your strength than anything else, but only as you get to the furthest day from your last shot...
SWIM has done both, more to test it than anything else, not much difference was noticed...

[UN Soldier]

1 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
2 200 deca, 250 sust, 20mg dbol
3 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
4 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
5 200 deca, 500 sust, 20mg dbol
6 200 deca, 500 sust,
7 200 deca, 250 sust,
8 200 deca, 250 sust,
10 Clomid 100mg per day
11 Clomid 50mg per day

please, someone with experience, can you let me know,
-is this a good first cycle
-when should the weekly dose be administered and in what volumes

thanks.

First cycle I always recommend using either Test Cyp or Test E @ 400mg pw or 500mg pw, and thats it, no deca, no eq, no tren, no abombs, no diana's, just good ol plain test. Although you could kick-start it with 30mg dbol per day for the first 2 weeks

Judging by your currant stats and goals i think a cycle like this would be better suited for your you.

Week | Testosterone | Equipoise |Anadrol |Growth Hormone| Insulin| Tren Ace
1 2,400mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
2 2,400mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
3 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
4 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
5 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
6 1,600mgs 900mgs 100mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
7 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
8 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
9 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
10 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg
11 1,600mgs 900mgs 8-10iu 10iu 340mg


-As for weekly doses Tren would be best @ 85mg EOD, GH and Slin ED, the test you can spit up into to 2 doses say monday thursday and no need for any PCT or anything like that being a fairly mild cycle this shouldn't fully shut you down.

Yeah that is a mild cycle definitely for a beginner, looks like my first cycle actually.

300mg test e weekly split into 2 injections per week is more than enough for cycle 1-5 for ANYBODY!

300mg Test E pw is not enough, you need at least 400mg Test E pw if you want to make gains that you can actually feel, and also up to 5 cycles? WTF 5 cycles, mate by that time I was running shitloads of gear, do you wear a skirt mate? This really upsets me when people recommend such low doses, its not healthy for the body to run low doses, just think of your car right, your car want go far on an empty tank of gas will it, nor will it run without oil in it, the body is the same, you need to keep it topped up to the max with fuel and oil otherwise you won't get anywhere.

[Scottie85]

300mg Test E pw is not enough, you need at least 400mg Test E pw if you want to make gains that you can actually feel, and also up to 5 cycles? WTF 5 cycles, mate by that time I was running shitloads of gear, do you wear a skirt mate? This really upsets me when people recommend such low doses, its not healthy for the body to run low doses, just think of your car right, your car want go far on an empty tank of gas will it, nor will it run without oil in it, the body is the same, you need to keep it topped up to the max with fuel and oil otherwise you won't get anywhere.

I'm so sure you're writing this to get a bite considering you're not getting enough love from Lazerus lately...

Do you even know how much a male produces naturally? Have you even tried to eat/train/sleepproperly while natural to see what can be achieved? I'm guessing no...

By the way, possibly the worst analogy I have ever read in my life, in no way does that relate to steroid use... What it does relate to is FOOD, which, coincidentally, is far more important than doses of steroids...

I still stick to my original comment... 300mg weekly in 2 doses is plenty for first 4 or 5 cycles...
Oh, and UN, you're a bone head... Give yourself an uppercut!