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    Quote Originally Posted by cwat View Post
    never heard of this until recently..

    already started cycle im 8 weeks in.. too late?

    what would you recommend i do hcg wise? i plan on being on for another 4 weeks till pct
    you are going to need some large doses now post cycle to get something to happen as small doses willnot be enough to get anything to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.N. View Post
    you are going to need some large doses now post cycle to get something to happen as small doses willnot be enough to get anything to happen.
    My understanding (enlighten me if im wrong)

    40iu * 56 = 2240iu kick start shot.

    then 500iu each week (2 250iu shots) until i stop the test shots will be enough?

    I gotta figure out where to get a mixing vial, ill see if the junky exchange has them.. i don't understand how you could pre-load syringes without first mixing it all ?

    How many IU can i go with per ml? is 500iu per ml too much or too little?

    Shooting IM can i just use a 25g 1in and shoot it like a normal test shot? or is it recommended to use the slin pins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwat View Post
    My understanding (enlighten me if im wrong)

    40iu * 56 = 2240iu kick start shot.

    then 500iu each week (2 250iu shots) until i stop the test shots will be enough?

    I gotta figure out where to get a mixing vial, ill see if the junky exchange has them.. i don't understand how you could pre-load syringes without first mixing it all ?

    How many IU can i go with per ml? is 500iu per ml too much or too little?

    Shooting IM can i just use a 25g 1in and shoot it like a normal test shot? or is it recommended to use the slin pins?
    What size hcg you got? if its a 5000iu amp, then just mix 5 ml in then you got 1000iu/ml. I have done this at the end of a cycle and i didnt crash after. approx 2 weeks before end of cycle, 1500iu then every 4th day after went like this, 1000iu, 1000iu, 500iu, 500iu, 250iu, 250iu. it lasted a few weeks after cycle which is what you want but yeah it worked in the sense i didnt crash. where i usually do after cycle with out hcg
    I look exactly like Shawn Ray except for my biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders, abs, back, traps, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasha View Post
    What size hcg you got? if its a 5000iu amp, then just mix 5 ml in then you got 1000iu/ml. I have done this at the end of a cycle and i didnt crash after. approx 2 weeks before end of cycle, 1500iu then every 4th day after went like this, 1000iu, 1000iu, 500iu, 500iu, 250iu, 250iu. it lasted a few weeks after cycle which is what you want but yeah it worked in the sense i didnt crash. where i usually do after cycle with out hcg
    yeah 5000iu

    I gotta find a mixing vial tho.. i can't put 5ml into it..

    Im hitting up the junky exchange tomorrow.. hopefully they can help me out

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    maybe use a 10ml barrel. most chemist sell them if the junky shop doesnt lol

    i use a slin pin to stick it in a shoulder or my quads.
    I look exactly like Shawn Ray except for my biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders, abs, back, traps, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

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    use 3-5ml plunger to withdraw then place insulin needles into the top of the plunger and preload your slin pins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.N. View Post
    use 3-5ml plunger to withdraw then place insulin needles into the top of the plunger and preload your slin pins.
    ahh ok so that's how its done..

    ok what ui/ml is a stable amount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwat View Post
    ahh ok so that's how its done..

    ok what ui/ml is a stable amount?
    well i usually just mix the 1ml vial that it comes with then preload the slin pins with 5units each giving you 250IU every slin pin, recap the slinpins and store in the fridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.N. View Post
    well i usually just mix the 1ml vial that it comes with then preload the slin pins with 5units each giving you 250IU every slin pin, recap the slinpins and store in the fridge.
    using HCG for a long time... could this be bad for you? i mean if i was running a blast cruise type thing, (which im not) could hcg be safely used for over a yr or so?
    I look exactly like Shawn Ray except for my biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders, abs, back, traps, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasha View Post
    using HCG for a long time... could this be bad for you? i mean if i was running a blast cruise type thing, (which im not) could hcg be safely used for over a yr or so?
    you mean other than desensitizing your leydig cells to LH?
    "You never want to show the weight that you're scared... but that's some heavy arse weight" Jay Cutler 4X Mr Olympia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RF1964 View Post
    you mean other than desensitizing your leydig cells to LH?
    yeah this is what i mean. Would it stuff them? Not using it would stuff them (i think) but using it for that long would that fk em up too?
    I look exactly like Shawn Ray except for my biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders, abs, back, traps, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasha View Post
    using HCG for a long time... could this be bad for you? i mean if i was running a blast cruise type thing, (which im not) could hcg be safely used for over a yr or so?
    You can use it in low doses like 100IU every second day but would still limit its use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.N. View Post
    well i usually just mix the 1ml vial that it comes with then preload the slin pins with 5units each giving you 250IU every slin pin, recap the slinpins and store in the fridge.
    Good idea..

    I just got 50 slin pins with 5unit increments on it(all up .5ml) and 10ml of sterile water to cut it with..but i dont mind this idea of just 5-10 unit increments... means theres no point in cutting it into 1ml doses with the water.. would the water and saline mix together??

    ill load them all up tomorrow night when i figure out a way of disguising them in the fridge from my all natural room mate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasha View Post
    yeah this is what i mean. Would it stuff them? Not using it would stuff them (i think) but using it for that long would that fk em up too?
    There is an obesity treatment plan that uses HCG as its base, and it's 100-125IUs ED for months at a time. At low doses there are really no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwat View Post
    Good idea..

    I just got 50 slin pins with 5unit increments on it(all up .5ml) and 10ml of sterile water to cut it with..but i dont mind this idea of just 5-10 unit increments... means theres no point in cutting it into 1ml doses with the water.. would the water and saline mix together??

    ill load them all up tomorrow night when i figure out a way of disguising them in the fridge from my all natural room mate...
    the water that it comes qith is 0.9% sodium chloride if you wish to water it down just buy some more from the chemist every chemist sells it over the counter or on the shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasha View Post
    using HCG for a long time... could this be bad for you? i mean if i was running a blast cruise type thing, (which im not) could hcg be safely used for over a yr or so?
    I am also wanting a firm answer on this, but really HCG doesn't seem to have to many 100% firm correct answers, a lot of us are just playing it by ear I beleive. I'm actually considering getting off HCG altogether for the time being because I am not planning on coming off cycle anytime soon. I have been using HCG at 250iu twice per week for the whole cycle, but regardless my libido has been low as fuck the whole time, it doesn't bother me though. I've been using Letro ED as well, so thats what might have fucked my libido.

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    in response to this UN i could only recommend from my personal experience that using hcg on cycle is definately worthwhile.
    it has taken ages to be back to semi normal sex drive for me after the last cycle, which was the only cycle i have ever done without hcg.
    just do it man.
    i'm just a fucking legend. end of story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by micksnowdog View Post
    in response to this UN i could only recommend from my personal experience that using hcg on cycle is definately worthwhile.
    it has taken ages to be back to semi normal sex drive for me after the last cycle, which was the only cycle i have ever done without hcg.
    just do it man.
    Yeah okay I'll continue with the HCG, I'm also taking a natural test booster just for shits and giggles, why not?

    Maybe I should start taking Resveratrol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN Soldier View Post
    I am also wanting a firm answer on this, but really HCG doesn't seem to have to many 100% firm correct answers, a lot of us are just playing it by ear I beleive. I'm actually considering getting off HCG altogether for the time being because I am not planning on coming off cycle anytime soon. I have been using HCG at 250iu twice per week for the whole cycle, but regardless my libido has been low as fuck the whole time, it doesn't bother me though. I've been using Letro ED as well, so thats what might have fucked my libido.
    Quote Originally Posted by UN Soldier View Post
    Yeah okay I'll continue with the HCG, I'm also taking a natural test booster just for shits and giggles, why not?

    Maybe I should start taking Resveratrol?
    Libido problems are from over surpressing your estrogen while on cycle, i also thought you were having a decent break after your 2yr cycle....?
    as for the natural test booster while on cycle there no point save your money.
    as for resveratrol on cycle not much point either unless your reasons for its use are heart health and blood pressure etc releated

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    Quote Originally Posted by UN Soldier View Post
    I am also wanting a firm answer on this, but really HCG doesn't seem to have to many 100% firm correct answers, a lot of us are just playing it by ear I beleive. I'm actually considering getting off HCG altogether for the time being because I am not planning on coming off cycle anytime soon. I have been using HCG at 250iu twice per week for the whole cycle, but regardless my libido has been low as fuck the whole time, it doesn't bother me though. I've been using Letro ED as well, so thats what might have fucked my libido.
    theres your answer. swap to adex
    I look exactly like Shawn Ray except for my biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders, abs, back, traps, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

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