Thread: 1,3 DIM

Just found is has now been banned in all sports but is allowed in training.

you can search for any ingredient on here:
https://checksubstances.asada.gov.au/search.aspx

Yeah this has been banned for quite some time. Never knew it wasn't banned for training use although I guess it makes sense lol
Ive got a whole bag of this at home just incase they ban it one day

pretty sure it was added to the banned list in 2009 by the world anti-doping agency

FDA challenges marketing of DMAA products for lack of safety evidence
Agency cites ten companies in warning letters

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today issued warning letters to ten manufacturers and distributors of dietary supplements containing dimethylamylamine, more popularly known as DMAA, for marketing products for which evidence of the safety of the product had not been submitted to FDA.

Also referred to as 1,3-dimethylamylamine, methylhexanamine, or geranium extract, the ingredient is in dietary supplements and is often touted as a "natural" stimulant.

The companies receiving warning letters and their product names are:

Company Product(s)
Exclusive Supplements Biorhythm SSIN Juice
Fahrenheit Nutrition Lean Efx
Gaspari Nutrition Spirodex
iSatori Global Technologies, LLC PWR
Muscle Warfare, Inc. Napalm
MuscleMeds Performance Technologies Code Red
Nutrex Research Hemo Rage Black
Lipo-6 Black Ultra Concentrate
Lipo-6 Black
Lipo-6 Black Hers Ultra Concentrate
Lipo-6 Black Hers
SEI Pharmaceuticals MethylHex 4,2
SNI LLC Nitric Blast
USP Labs, LLC Oxy Elite Pro and Jack3D

"Before marketing products containing DMAA, manufacturers and distributors have a responsibility under the law to provide evidence of the safety of their products. They haven’t done that and that makes the products adulterated," said Daniel Fabricant, Ph.D., Director of FDA’s Dietary Supplement Program.

Specifically, the warning letters cite the companies for marketing products for which a notification had not been submitted for the use of DMAA as a New Dietary Ingredient (NDI). Under current law, dietary supplement manufacturers or distributors who use certain dietary ingredients not marketed in a dietary supplement prior to October 15, 1994, are responsible for notifying the FDA of evidence to support their conclusion that their dietary supplements containing NDIs are safe. Manufacturers or distributors must submit notification at least 75 days before marketing their products. The companies warned today were marketing products for which this requirement had not been met.

The FDA warning letters also advised the companies that the agency is not aware of evidence or history of use to indicate that DMAA is safe. Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), manufacturers, marketers and distributors of dietary supplements are responsible for ensuring that they are marketing a safe product.

The FDA letters noted that DMAA is known to narrow the blood vessels and arteries, which can elevate blood pressure and may lead to cardiovascular events ranging from shortness of breath and tightening in the chest to heart attack. The agency has received 42 adverse event reports on products containing DMAA. While the complaints do not establish that DMAA was the cause of the incidents, some of the reports have included cardiac disorders, nervous system disorders, psychiatric disorders, and death.

The agency additionally warned the companies that synthetically-produced DMAA is not a “dietary ingredient” and, therefore, is not eligible to be used as an active ingredient in a dietary supplement. DSHEA defines a dietary ingredient as a vitamin, mineral, amino acid, herb or other botanical, a dietary substance for use by man to supplement the diet, or a concentrate, metabolite, constituent, extract, or combination of these substances.

The companies have 15 business days to respond to the FDA with the specific steps they will take to address the issues in the warning letters.

Source: http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm302133.htm

Well oddly i did have chest pain when i was pumping jack3d with some intense workouts. Maybe its coincidence with a really straining workout though? I shoukld be back to my philosophy that it isnt natural or healthy lol. Thatll keep me off it :P
ZAC

All in all i do like my jack3d for that pick me up when i dont have the energy to train but it is catabolic to muscle growth, i should probably just stick with my purple k creatine only.

Yeah double edged sword them pre-workouts lol.

Australian version of Jacked v's USA version proof there is 2 versions from this email.

Pressure has been mounting in many countries for regulatory authorities to ban the ingredient 1,3 dimethylamylamine (DMAA) including New Zealand, Canada, the UK, the USA and the EU.

USA - As of today the sale of concentrated pre-workout supplements containing 1,3 dimethylamylamine (DMAA) including Jack3d, at retail level has ceased with products being pulled immediately from the shelves. This is a direct result of the US Food and Drug Administration issuing warning notices to numerous product manufacturers. Manufacturers do have a right of reply to the FDA however upon review it seems clear the products have been & are being removed from shelves.

NEW ZEALAND - DMAA was banned in New Zealand as of April 9th 2012.

AUSTRALIA - We have been advised by industry sources that this ingredient has been referred to the delegate and after review may be entered into Schedule 9 of the Standard for the Uniform Scheduling of Medicines and Poisons (SUSMP). If so this would see the manufacture, possession, sale or use of DMAA prohibited by law. This reputable source and we quote "We inform that we see a banned outcome as being inevitable". As such we have been informed, that all orders for imports have ceased for the formulations containing DMAA including the products USPlabs Jack3d, USPLabs OxyElite, APS Mesomorph , Nutrex Hemorage Ultra Concentrate, Promera Beta Cret, SAN Launch, Neogenix Cryoshock, Mutant Mayhem, CTD Labs NoxiPro and Dorian Yates Nox Pump. We have stock in our warehouse of these products and wish to advise that if the ingredient is entered as a Scheduled Medicine/Poison in Australia any remaining stock of these products containing DMAA will be unavailable for sale & ultimately destroyed. The major manufacturers including USPlabs stand behind the safety of the products containing this ingredient when used as directed and have defended the ingredient. However, in Australia the said move to Schedule the ingredient if actioned, shall give us no other option than to cease the sale of supplements containing this ingredient.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Jack3d and all products containing the ingredient 1,3 dimethylamylamine (DMAA) shall likely be banned in Australia in the near future. As to when no-one excluding the Australian Regulatory Authorities really knows and opinions vary from days to months. Once & if the ingredient is Scheduled by the authorities the ban to supply shall likely be immediate. These formulations then shall never again be available. These products whilst legal for sale, may also be expected to be in short supply with no further import orders placed.

i was told last night that it'll be banned in australia as of the 30th august... haven't seen it in writing tho

Originally Posted by age1986

i was told last night that it'll be banned in australia as of the 30th august... haven't seen it in writing tho

this is just rumors for the date but the TGA website does state that it is going before a tribunal on the 25th of August.
All imports has ceased so stock up now if anyone wants to run it still. When it is listed as a schedule 9 prohibited substance no shop will dare sell it

i'm pretty sure the TGA will follow the US and ban it from all products

Originally Posted by age1986

i'm pretty sure the TGA will follow the US and ban it from all products

yeah they will some date after the 25th

We have several tubs of jack3d at the moment and 4 tubs of mesomorph we were about to start stocking it would help me out if people grabbed what i have left otherwise once this ban is in place i will just have to throw it in the bin.

Im moving soon and broke but if you want to sell 1 fairly heavily discounted to get rid of them? If so I will buy 1 lemon lime or whatever off you man like hows $35 posted sound ? Dont take this the wrong way if i had the $$ id pay full price. If not no sweat lol (literally :P) C how you go man and you still got 3months yeah? , cheers,
ZAC