Thread: Supplements for weight loss

Ok just wondering what you guys have used for weightloss/stripping fat, and actually worked?
I believe hydroxycut to be a massive load of crap and havent tried any other natural weight loss products. But keen to.

What have you tried and what worked for you?

Originally Posted by Thrasha

Ok just wondering what you guys have used for weightloss/stripping fat, and actually worked?
I believe hydroxycut to be a massive load of crap and havent tried any other natural weight loss products. But keen to.

What have you tried and what worked for you?

I can only assume you mean legal, OTC products?

That said, I had some reasonable results with AMP.
Also with Cell Biology's Metaslim.

But it all comes down to diet and exercise being right. These supps are just that; supps.

Originally Posted by Lazarus

I can only assume you mean legal, OTC products?

That said, I had some reasonable results with AMP.
Also with Cell Biology's Metaslim.

But it all comes down to diet and exercise being right. These supps are just that; supps.

Yeah legal OTC. maybe i should be asking about exercise then.

Mate I think that some, and I stress some, of the various weight loss aids do have some benefit when tackling weight loss; especially ones that target appetite and so on. The reality is though that a well structured eating and exercise plan is going to to the bulk of the work.

In all honesty any OTC fat loss supplement will only help with a very clean diet and exercise program it will only be a slight added advantage.

Let look for instance at some of the fat loss drugs that bodybuilders use, they themselves only give slight advantage and they are banned drugs things like thyroids clenbuterol they all work but are such a minor improvement in fat loss.

The only thing that works for certain is good healthy eating.
I'm also a big beleiver in L-Carnitine but again it wont do a dam thing unless your dieting.

So all fat loss products will "help aid in your fat loss goals they will not reach the goals for you"

Lets look at something I have done recently.

In preperation for surgery I have stripped off a good 5kg of fat in 5 weeks on a slight calorie deficit eating a 55%c 30%p and 15%f diet (excess fats actually make me fat as I have figured out) and gained strength. BTW I'm at 10%BF right now

The only supplements I have used was fish oil, a multi and blended protein, nothing there that is a specific fat burner and nothing that couldn't be obtained from whole foods either, but time and money prevails hence why they are a true 'supplement'. Where as last year I had used Megaslim ate far less calories in the form of carbs, did more cardio than I am currently doing and absolutely wrecked myself under the bar to get the same if not LESS results. Also one thing to keep in mind is I am currently ignoring the glycemic index for the most part too, as this has flaws unto itself. All I can say is I have NOT deprived myself one bit and I am on no typical crash or bodybuilding diet. I might not be in a state where I can step up on stage but 100% ready for the summer season, if it gets here lol.

A good training balance and diet suited for YOURSELF will do more for you than any fatburner ever will.

My 2c anyway.

i would agree with the above comments, i have just done about 4 months worth of cutting with little to no cardio and very strict diet.
used fat burners on and off including dnp, anavar, masteron, yohimbine and probably more chemicals that are known for fat burning. dnp did a lot, the rest did fuck all. the diet did the most. cardio alongside i would have been ripped as by now i reckon. still i dropped probobly 10%bf in the first 10weeks.

Yes, supps are not the be all and end all...

However; supps that can blunt the appetite, replace depleted energy, help focus the mind, etc, are worth using to help the process along.

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Yes, supps are not the be all and end all...

However; supps that can blunt the appetite, replace depleted energy, help focus the mind, etc, are worth using to help the process along.

i was so absolutely fucked with no carbs and low cals on dnp. i developed me a caffeine addiction then lol. needed something to get by, and i was making so many stupid mistakes it was fucked.

Originally Posted by micksnowdog

i was so absolutely fucked with no carbs and low cals on dnp. i developed me a caffeine addiction then lol. needed something to get by, and i was making so many stupid mistakes it was fucked.

I only use caffeine as a pick me up, never as a fat loss aid (sleeping issues are a problem for me)

BTW there never really is a need to go low carbs to drop fat unless you have some seriously blood sugar problems it can be done quite easy without deprivation.

Originally Posted by adz82

Lets look at something I have done recently.

In preperation for surgery I have stripped off a good 5kg of fat in 5 weeks on a slight calorie deficit eating a 55%c 30%p and 15%f diet (excess fats actually make me fat as I have figured out) and gained strength. BTW I'm at 10%BF right now

The only supplements I have used was fish oil, a multi and blended protein, nothing there that is a specific fat burner and nothing that couldn't be obtained from whole foods either, but time and money prevails hence why they are a true 'supplement'. Where as last year I had used Megaslim ate far less calories in the form of carbs, did more cardio than I am currently doing and absolutely wrecked myself under the bar to get the same if not LESS results. Also one thing to keep in mind is I am currently ignoring the glycemic index for the most part too, as this has flaws unto itself. All I can say is I have NOT deprived myself one bit and I am on no typical crash or bodybuilding diet. I might not be in a state where I can step up on stage but 100% ready for the summer season, if it gets here lol.

A good training balance and diet suited for YOURSELF will do more for you than any fatburner ever will.

My 2c anyway.

Ads are you able to pm me a sample week of your diet and training routine so i can have some sort of idea of what/where to start. Or even for some info on what programs works for others.

I have just gotn back into the gym after a long while and have found myself with an extra few layers of fat.
My training split is chest bi's, back tri's, shoulders calves, ab work every second training session. and 20min cardio on either treadmill, x-trainer, or bike every session. If i can i chuck in an all over day where i do 1 exercise for each body part then 40mins of cardio followed by ab work. I aim for 4 days in the gym but usually only 3. Because of the constant cardio i dont train legs as they are getting a work out already but i might chuck in some lunges every week or so.
My goal is not a bodybuilding body but more of a bedroom body if you know what i mean. My goals have changed from when i was 21 haha

Originally Posted by Thrasha

Ads are you able to pm me a sample week of your diet and training routine so i can have some sort of idea of what/where to start. Or even for some info on what programs works for others.

I have just gotn back into the gym after a long while and have found myself with an extra few layers of fat.
My training split is chest bi's, back tri's, shoulders calves, ab work every second training session. and 20min cardio on either treadmill, x-trainer, or bike every session. If i can i chuck in an all over day where i do 1 exercise for each body part then 40mins of cardio followed by ab work. I aim for 4 days in the gym but usually only 3. Because of the constant cardio i dont train legs as they are getting a work out already but i might chuck in some lunges every week or so.
My goal is not a bodybuilding body but more of a bedroom body if you know what i mean. My goals have changed from when i was 21 haha

I can post what I do right here.

But lets look at something, not training legs at all, BIG MISTAKE. There is more benefit to be had for LBM maintenance and dropping body fat by training legs, you are just doing yourself a dis-service.

Training wise atm my current split is as follows, it's not the best and flashiest but at the same time I enjoy it and get the results.

Chest/bi's, legs/lowerback, back/tris, shoulders/abs. I will periodise my program so one week I will do a 3x8 60s rest, anther 5x5 90sec rest, and the other i will do 2 x 12 45s rest. This type of periodisation has allowed me continue to gain strength even on a deficit whist using nothing but a blended protein once a day, fish oil and a multi. On the days off I will slip in some moderate intensity cardio for about 35 mins. Thats 3 cardio sessions a week only and I will try and obviously increase the challenge by doing more work in the same time as my body gets used to it.

Diet is at 2500kcal 55% C, 30% P, 15% F ( I just don't do well with a higher fat diet, in the end its calories in vs calories out) But one thing to keep in mind that even on the above diet, without the little cardio I do, I don't maintain my bf levels, they just go up. I don't subscribe to pre and post workout nutrition windows, I just train in between my meals and considering I eat carbs all day its fine, they are not as evil as people would have you believe, nor is there a way that you can live life without being a food nazi without eating them.

Got any questions just ask. I took 4 restavit and a temazepam last night so even at this time of day I'm groggy as fuck and not my usual self as what I have posted probably makes no sense.

Originally Posted by adz82

I can post what I do right here.

But lets look at something, not training legs at all, BIG MISTAKE. There is more benefit to be had for LBM maintenance and dropping body fat by training legs, you are just doing yourself a dis-service.

Training wise atm my current split is as follows, it's not the best and flashiest but at the same time I enjoy it and get the results.

Chest/bi's, legs/lowerback, back/tris, shoulders/abs. I will periodise my program so one week I will do a 3x8 60s rest, anther 5x5 90sec rest, and the other i will do 2 x 12 45s rest. This type of periodisation has allowed me continue to gain strength even on a deficit whist using nothing but a blended protein once a day, fish oil and a multi. On the days off I will slip in some moderate intensity cardio for about 35 mins. Thats 3 cardio sessions a week only and I will try and obviously increase the challenge by doing more work in the same time as my body gets used to it.

Diet is at 2500kcal 55% C, 30% P, 15% F ( I just don't do well with a higher fat diet, in the end its calories in vs calories out) But one thing to keep in mind that even on the above diet, without the little cardio I do, I don't maintain my bf levels, they just go up. I don't subscribe to pre and post workout nutrition windows, I just train in between my meals and considering I eat carbs all day its fine, they are not as evil as people would have you believe, nor is there a way that you can live life without being a food nazi without eating them.

Got any questions just ask. I took 4 restavit and a temazepam last night so even at this time of day I'm groggy as fuck and not my usual self as what I have posted probably makes no sense.

why am i losing the benefits by not training legs? My legs are pretty much sore most the week because of the cardio i do. I in no way take any of my training lightly and always give 150% effort for no matter what im training. Its just getting me to the gym that is the problem haha.
But seriously if i am to train legs, they get a punishing. And im too sore to get on the treadmill for days and my legs are like jelly.

Can you suggest how i could possibly avoid this? Im always on the move due to my schedule so im unsure when i can have rest days. rest days are usually forced rest days because my schedule wont allow me to train. Full time work, Uni and a missus doesnt leave much time for anything else hahaha
As i dont have the option to do cardio on off days i have to squeeze everything into 3-4 days a week.

Legs are like jelly from undertraining, ie you train them but you dont stick to training them for long periods, so as you have said you cant get to the gym often enough so this would mean your just not getting the body use to training legs. (constantly startinf/stopping or missing sessions)

If you trained legs often they would be sore for a day or 2 not for a whole week.

Originally Posted by Online Nutrition

Legs are like jelly from undertraining, ie you train them but you dont stick to training them for long periods, so as you have said you cant get to the gym often enough so this would mean your just not getting the body use to training legs. (constantly startinf/stopping or missing sessions)

If you trained legs often they would be sore for a day or 2 not for a whole week.

I had a really good reply but my browser crashed

Anyway agreed with ON, I have noticed the same thing in the past if I ever took a week of training legs for some reason.

What type of cardio are you doing, provide an example of what a 20 min session would consist of. Want to know speed, heart rate etc.

Also to keep this on topic and back to the supplement part for fat loss. As far as it goes, you need to first make sure diet is in a calorie deficit and you are meeting protein, vegetable and efa requirmements. Supplement with products that can replace what you might be lacking from food first. ie. protein, fish oil, multi-v and perhaps a greens sup if you can't get a good amount of fruit/veg into you. Exhaust those options whist manipulating diet and training to give the best results and if you stall out then it might be time to look at supplements to give you that edge to push the last few lbs away.

For some of us the final bits might require fat burning supplements, some of us don't need them, but its hard to know what's working for you and what's not if you just throw everything into the mix all at once.

It's about a scientific approach to it all where you will have a control and manipulate variables and gauge given results to evaluate how effective a product or another variable might have on you not just a whole bunch of random haphazard shit that has you going in on a wing and a prayer.

takes ages to learn to properly construct a diet to meet your specific goals. jump on limewire and accidentally download burn the fat feed the muscle by tom venuto. you'll learn stacks from it.

Originally Posted by micksnowdog

takes ages to learn to properly construct a diet to meet your specific goals. jump on limewire and accidentally download burn the fat feed the muscle by tom venuto. you'll learn stacks from it.

if i didn't live so far from adz i reckon i'd pay him for my meals he knows his shit when it comes to dieting, he is very veyr on the ball mate, under 10%BF at the moment and doing it easily eating things he likes to eat but not eating shit.

Originally Posted by Online Nutrition

if i didn't live so far from adz i reckon i'd pay him for my meals he knows his shit when it comes to dieting, he is very veyr on the ball mate, under 10%BF at the moment and doing it easily eating things he likes to eat but not eating shit.

Thanks appreciate the comments. I just like to do things a little differently and sacrifice as little as possible as this is something you got to be able to keep consistent, it's a long enough journey without making it longer than it need be.

ok maybe i got to get a diet check before i plan to lose fat. I have always been a slim person but over the last 6-12 months ive just let go and drink way too much beer lol. Ive cut that out now and probably dont have more then 2-3 beers a week which is good for me.

Does any 1 know how id go about constructing a diet? pm me if you like.
I will look up that video you mentioned MicK.

Originally Posted by Thrasha

Does any 1 know how id go about constructing a diet? pm me if you like.
I will look up that video you mentioned MicK.

This video tells you exactly how to construct a diet by Milos Sarcev
http://forum.onlinenutrition.com.au/...os-sarcev.html